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September 29th, 2011


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03:23 pm
I hear that the Chinese have launched their very own space station; none of this international nonsense. They'll be able to do whatever they like up there. It won't be long until it's manned. No matter that at its largest, it'll be less than a sixth the size of ISS.

It seems to me that the Chinese are following pretty close to Werner von Braun's playbook; get into space, build orbital infrastructure, and use that to expand into the Solar System. Too bad that the US forgot all that...
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From:mazal_
Date:September 29th, 2011 10:35 pm (UTC)

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Agreed. When I was a child, my dad was very much involved in the space program, and I've continued to be interested in it, such as it has become/dwindled in the past years/decades.

What ELSE will it take for us, I wonder, to confront the competition in space and all things STEM-related?
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:14 pm (UTC)
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I fear that we've missed the window, and will take a backseat henceforth...
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From:moonsinger
Date:September 29th, 2011 10:39 pm (UTC)
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Preach it!
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:14 pm (UTC)
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I'm here for you!
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From:moonsinger
Date:September 30th, 2011 10:17 pm (UTC)
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I was depressed for the entire day that the last space shuttle launched. We need to get things back on track.
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 10:56 pm (UTC)
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I've been reminded, elsewhere in this discussion, that companies such as SpaceX and Virgin Galactic are forging ahead; there's talk that the former may launch a test flight to the ISS as early as November, while the latter has opened their factory to build space planes in (IIRC) New Mexico.

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From:docstrange
Date:October 1st, 2011 03:13 am (UTC)
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Yeah, if we're going to open things up to the private sector, we could find ourselves in a massive lead. Just not "as a government" but as an enabler. Hudson Bay Company as one wag (wink) said. There really is something to that notion.
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From:mycroftca
Date:October 1st, 2011 07:02 am (UTC)
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We'll just have to see how things fare in the next decade...

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From:waiwode
Date:September 29th, 2011 10:57 pm (UTC)
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It's just a remote docking module. They'll send up a second module later in the year and just practice linking up via remotes. Their space station is still years away.

As to why not join the ISS? Politics aside all of their tech has been self_developed from the original Russian, compatibility and interoperability would be an issue.

This is more a "figuring out our doctrine" mission than the beginnings of station construction.
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:16 pm (UTC)
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Not according to the press releases. Nonetheless, they are still forging ahead while we let our program deteriorate. I wait with bated breath for the private sector space planes.

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From:realpestilence
Date:September 29th, 2011 11:01 pm (UTC)
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So very reassuring to hear that.
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:16 pm (UTC)
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Isn't just warm and fuzzy feeling?
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From:droxy
Date:September 30th, 2011 12:52 am (UTC)
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Yes, this.
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From:pogodragon
Date:September 30th, 2011 06:52 am (UTC)
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Perfect icon for this :-/
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:13 pm (UTC)
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Testify!
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 10:58 pm (UTC)
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Honestly, I can't wait until our government is entirely out of the business, and so the private sector takes over. The difference between Columbus and the Hudson Bay Company, I suppose.

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From:marswalker
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:26 am (UTC)
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What waiwode said - they are years off - it'll take them as long to field a station as it will for us to replace the shuttles and Saturn 5 program.
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:19 pm (UTC)
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Assuming that Congress doesn't fuck it up some more.

You know that Skylab fell out of the sky because Congress defunded the Shuttle program, slowing it to the point that it couldn't be launched in time to refuel the station, and so bits of it fell over Australia. Odd that there was never an investigation instigated by Congress, since they knew that it fell out of the sky because the planned Shuttle resupply missions were still years away.

From:siliconshaman
Date:September 30th, 2011 11:53 am (UTC)
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"Heavenly Palace1" [I love the name!] is a prototype, more a proof of concept. However, they have a design for a Celestial Palace, which is meant to a true orbital facility, and it's about twice the size of the ISS [same number of crew though...their tech is bulkier].

Interestingly, it's been suggested that one configuration of the design includes an "orbital construction area".. i.e a space dock...presumably for building orbit-to-orbit or pure space vessels.

Way I figure it, America will get serious about space again, when China launches it's manned lunar mission.

Edited at 2011-09-30 11:54 am (UTC)
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:20 pm (UTC)
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Maybe. Or maybe the Chinese will skip the Moon (it's so 1960s!), and go to Mars, leaving us all in the dust.

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From:lonemagpie
Date:September 30th, 2011 01:02 pm (UTC)
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It's also the British Rocket Group playbook, but sadly Bernard Quatermass never really existed....
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From:mycroftca
Date:September 30th, 2011 02:20 pm (UTC)
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Sadness.
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco...

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